Creating Change in Sport Media with Kayla Grey

On this week’s Let’s Talk About… episode, Elise sits down with Kayla Grey.

Kayla Grey is an award-winning sportscaster on TSN. She’s not only the host but is also the co-executive producer for The Shift on TSN, a show that focuses a unique lens on Canadian stories and discussions at the intersection of sports, life, and culture.

Elise and Kayla talk about being a storyteller, building a career, diversity in sports media, and having a work-life balance.

“I want people that are different. I want people that will get in there and debate and say, ‘No, I don’t really like that idea’ and ‘No, I don’t really like this’, or ‘No, I don’t feel safe with this’. I think if you let people just be who they are and let people be, they become the best creators become it’s coming from such a safe space. So yeah, it’s always my goal and an intention to create a safe space for people.” Kayla tells Elise on Let’s Talk About.

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Check out the show transcript below.

[00:00:00] Elise: Hello, friends and welcome this week. Let’s talk about breaking barriers with Kayla. Kayla’s an executive producer, host sideline reporter, and self-proclaimed storyteller.

She’s a regular anchor of sports center and reports court side for TSN live coverage of the Toronto Raptors she’s executive producer and host of TSN’s, The Shift with Kayla Gray. Where she discusses topics post on the intersection of sports life and culture. Gray is a mother and award-winning journalist who has been recognized by women of influence as one as a top 25 women of influence in Canada in 2021 and was awarded by blacks magazines, people choice awards and the TV personality category in 2019. Thank you so much for joining us today. 

[00:00:41] Kayla: Thanks for having me.

I’m so excited to have this conversation. 

[00:00:44] Elise: Fresh off the flight from Vegas.

[00:00:46] Kayla: Fresh off the plane, fresh off, you know, sanitization wipes and all things. And no, I’m kidding. Yes. Yes. 

[00:00:54] Elise: Right. Well, I mean, flying is a journey right now. I think so. Hopefully your experience wasn’t too bad. 

[00:01:01] Kayla: So it’s wild because I’m like, uh, it’s, it’s such a privilege what I do in a sense, like I’m always on a plane.

So all these horror stories, I’m like, I don’t have that experience over here. Like I’ve yet. 

[00:01:13] Elise: That’s awesome. 

[00:01:14] Kayla: But I, I check, like I don’t, I rarely, I actually check something this time around because of outfits and it’s so hot and you wanna change all the time, but usually I don’t check anything. And I feel like when I don’t check anything, I don’t have any problems.

Also hack, you need to get like air tags or trackers to throw inside, um, your luggage. Genius to make sure that it’s, it’s made its way here. 

[00:01:38] Elise: Oh, I’ve never even. So where do you buy it? Just on Amazon. I’ve never even heard of that. 

[00:01:43] Kayla: Yeah. So you just get it on Amazon or like whatever you have and like just throw it in your luggage, throw it in your purse.

Like things that you’re definitely gonna part ways from ways with like on the plane. And then you can track and like, see if it’s made its way. And if it’s, if it’s not there it’s might, it might be in Spain. Like you could literally figure, like, find it out in real time where it’s at. 

[00:02:03] Elise: Well, I’ve seen the suitcases that have that GPS in it, but I didn’t know.

You could like buy it separately. 

[00:02:10] Kayla: No, very well. You know, because like you could track up at things, but like, yeah, that’s good for Lugg. 

[00:02:18] Elise: I mean for all the great things you’re gonna tell us today. That might be top five

Well, we’re so happy that you could join us today. We missed each other at the collision conference. Yeah. How was that experience for you? Have you gone before? 

[00:02:33] Kayla: I had never been to collision. I honestly, when I had gotten the email asking to host that panel, I was like, what the heck is this thing? Like what?

I had knew, nothing about it. Very, very, very new to like the tech space. And then like I went and I was like a kid in a candy sort. So exciting to just like meet different people and specifically in sport and see the different layers to sport in different ways people were contributing and like the startups, like, I think someone was saying that like, Uber might have been a startup at a collision conference and like someone just, oh, really?

Like you just like, never know what might pop off, I guess what you’re coming across. I’m definitely gonna go to collision moving forward because it was just great conversation, great experience. And it’s just like, nice to see like us there. Like yeah. They had their own women in tech space and we 

[00:03:17] Elise: Were you with RBC? 

[00:03:20] Kayla: Yeah, I didn’t pop by, but I walked by and it was full.

And like, everyone was just connecting and vibing and it was just like, everyone just genuinely yeah. Was for work, but everyone was genuinely like invested with being there. Yeah. I loved it. Yeah. No, 

[00:03:33] Elise: it was. Can you share a little, cause I was obviously when I went more focused on like some of the fashion startups, but what was happening in the world of sports and tech.

[00:03:41] Kayla: Yeah. So I was specifically there to talk about a panel on enhancing live events experiences, which is my jam because with the Raptors is, that’s just what a part I’m a part of. Right. So, yeah. I was with Christian Lao who is with LAFC, like runs your operations, and Chris LA plant. And so he is, uh, the head of like mix halo, which is basically the idea is what they’ll wanna give you is something that can enhance the audio in your ear while you’re taking in a live event sport.

Cool. So like, like, I know we’ve all seen the concerts with the headphones and it’s like, something like that, but obviously a little bit more discreet. But with that, you can like switch through channels of like having what you see live in real time. One. Associated with the call, which is amazing. Cuz sometimes when you’re at a game and you’re like, okay, what’s happening?

What are they reviewing? It’d be nice to have like that piece in that context. So yeah, that’s what I was there for in terms of like talking and being nosy as heck as to like how this thing is gonna work and how it’s gonna look. But yeah, tech is definitely like such a major piece and like in advancing how we take in sport, these.

[00:04:46] Elise: I never really thought of that because even, I mean, I think of like when in hockey, when they had to like follow the puck thing or yeah. Things like that. Right. Make it easier for the viewer or the fan, but I’d imagine from your side, there’s a lot more that goes into it that you need to kinda follow that.

[00:05:03] Kayla: And it’s wild. And it’s funny because like, for me, I, and I really didn’t take it in until I had this conversation is I listened to. Three things at once all the time. So like I’m listening to the live events game. Yeah. But I’m also, I also have a IFB in my ear and so I have a producer talking of like, okay, Kayla, we’re gonna get you in now.

Hey, Kayla, like we’re so that’s going on while I’m listening to 18,000 people in a building screaming, someone’s probably has come up to me to ask me a question or, or, you know, recognize me or taking a photo or, and then you have the postgame interview where you. Hearing everything at once the count, the question, the answer to all those things.

Right. So, um, it was very unique to like have that conversation and to really understand that yeah. When your audio is, isolate, it can make a massive difference as to like how you truly like take in something. Yeah. 

[00:05:55] Elise: I guess when we were chatting just offline a little bit about the stimulation of Vegas, I feel like your job is like constant stimulation with all those different… 

[00:06:03] Kayla: elements,

yeah. It’s like, I always say it’s kinda like a drug, like you have this like high of just like overstimulation following the game, being so invested in the game, storyline prep, and then it just. Yeah. And everyone goes home and you just like crash 

[00:06:17] Elise: down. Yeah. Mm-hmm yep. Do you, do you like operate well, like, I’m assuming that’s part of your personality in that you’re like either a hundred or zero.

Like, I feel like I’m kind of like that. Is 

[00:06:29] Kayla: that? Oh, no, like I’m all in, always on anything I do. And if, if I’m not, then I’m like Audi . Yeah. And it’s funny. Cause everyone’s like, why you’re so like outgoing and bubbly and like, I am in like these moments, but you should see me in these streets. I’m introverted.

I’m quiet. I need those moments back for myself. Like yeah. 

[00:06:46] Elise: Like that recharge right. Yeah. Yeah. So important. Let’s take a step back to the very beginning. I love that you call yourself a storyteller. I feel like you’re always telling other people stories. I’m sure. But even more so now you’ve you have your own kind of spotlight very much so.

And I love to kind of start with a little bit about your story and where you, where you got started and what that journey was 

[00:07:09] Kayla: for. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. It’s funny cuz I never, I hate telling my story cuz I, I just, I don’t I’m like it’s so boring. I don’t have people interested in it, but now like did you say 

[00:07:17] Elise: that on another podcast?

So sorry to ask you that question. No, 

[00:07:21] Kayla: no, no, no. Uh, yeah, no. I spent a lot of time with my grandparents growing up. Sports was just always on, from baseball to wrestling, to basketball. And then I was active growing up as well. Like I played basketball a lot at, at mom camp, west girl, boys, and girls club, shout out to you.

Uh, and then, you know, I realized that yes, I might be athletic, but I’m not like the best athlete on any roster. So probably better to like talk about the sport than like be in the sport the way that I wanted to be. 

[00:07:49] Elise: Did you play any sports growing up? 

[00:07:51] Kayla: Oh, yeah. Like volleyball, basketball, football. I wanted to be a safety like Troy Paul Malo soccer.


[00:07:59] Elise: I was in it. I was 

[00:08:01] Kayla: in it. Yeah. I was just not the best at it. It’s fine. Okay. 

[00:08:05] Elise: You recognize your strengths? I re

[00:08:07] Kayla: I am. I was very self-aware at the age of 14. Um, and so, no, I just, I, I, I it’s, it’s also one of those weird things. I just dunno how to explain. Always just wanting to have been a part of this and like contribute in some way, shape or fashion.

And like I was, I guess I don’t wanna say lucky, but I guess, uh, you know, my path was unique in it that like, I always knew what I wanted to do. I didn’t know what this looked like, or if it was on air or if it was editing, which I wanted to really do or whatever, I just knew that I wanted to be a part of the game.

I wanted to be a part of sport because it just made my heart beat really, really. And so I just tried to follow that. I mean, obviously life got in the way with like struggles in high school and depression and not making it through high school, but, uh, a couple of times in failing courses a lot of times.

So, um, some way somehow with like keeping that at the back of my mind at times, or even more to the forefront of my mind, like it still was in my mind. And mm-hmm , I guess it manifested to life by now. 

[00:09:07] Elise: I was gonna say, like, we just had a conversation with actually, um, a psychic medium and talking about your intuition.

Yeah. And I, as you’re talking, I feel like there’s some elements of. You knew you wanted it. Do you feel like there was an element of like you, you just knew also that this was gonna happen in some capacity? 

[00:09:24] Kayla: Oh yeah. This was fine. I, I, I always, I don’t like, and I’m telling you things got thrown at me and for some ways, some like reason I would be so sure when I said like, I’m gonna be in the sports industry.

I know how I’m gonna be great at it though. But I. Like I just knew, I don’t know how, I don’t know how yeah. Were your grandparents 

[00:09:44] Elise: like instrumental in building that kind of intuition or like 

[00:09:49] Kayla: there’s these four things they even know, like we were taking so much TV. We would do like the world tour of like ma to Jerry Springer to all the judges during the day.

And then we would get, yeah, 

[00:10:00] Elise: love 

[00:10:00] Kayla: that TV Greg up there. So like, my grandma would do like the Jay’s games. She would have the TV on, but she would have the TV on mute. And then my grandfather would have the games on, on the radio and they would like, kind of be off a little bit, but they would sync up. Right.

Mm-hmm like, they were so old school that way. But for me, like a kid, I was like, this is so cool. And like, what player are they talking about now? And like, how is he able to like call this? And just, I guess it was like a crash course into broadcasting that they gave me and. It stuck. And it was always just so interesting.

I was always so interested in that side of storytelling. 

[00:10:33] Elise: Yeah. Very cool. And you talked a little bit, I mean, I’m sure there’s been lots of hardships. You’re a young black woman in sports. Yeah. What were some of like the biggest challenges, you know, the personal struggles that you kind of mentioned in your teens, but then you get into your starting of your career path.

Right. And what did 

[00:10:51] Kayla: that look like? Yeah. I think like the biggest thing was where the one time I felt doubt was looking at the industry and not seeing a single person that looked like me and being like, I don’t know if this is it. And at that time it was like, so hockey dominated and like, I like the game, but I didn’t love it.

Like mm-hmm, now I, I really enjoy it. And now I can, you know, speak about it. Like I like a fan, but. Basketball was my thing. And it just felt like there was just no space room or love for it. And so, you know, that was a bit uncomfortable. And then also too, like figuring myself out as a person also while simultaneously figuring yourself out with an industry that wants women to look, talk and be a certain way, it’s kind of a mind blow.

Like you just it’s so challenging. Couple that with being black in this phase, couple that with your needs being a little bit different than other people’s needs, um, it’s challenging. It’s hard. And there’s certain things that like, even now I like have taken on that. I’m like, but no one else would’ve done that.

Or like, or someone else would’ve said, no one felt no worries about it. There’s a lot of like internal struggle that happens. Remember I had to like teach myself how to do my own makeup because. At that time, there was an artist that could like do makeup for deeper tones. So yeah. It’s just like the little things that people don’t think about, right.

Like, yeah. Or like you could just have your hair and go, it’s like, no, my texture is like so different than someone else’s or like, you know, writing things means diff is different for me than, than other people, because I have a lived experience in talking about certain things. I can’t just willy-nilly just talk about them.

Like someone can casual casually pass over. So mm-hmm yeah. I. Finding my comfort zone in that, but also understanding that that’s why I’m here. And maybe that’s the purpose is to really shake it up in the Canadian landscape. Um, it, it brought a little bit of ease after mm-hmm 

[00:12:44] Elise: and then is that. It sounds like you still kind of go through some of that.

Yeah. Those mind games or whatever. So even now with like the success you’ve had still, did you see a change though, in this space? A little bit 

[00:13:00] Kayla: like, yeah. I think that we’ve made steps forward in terms of holding space for these conversations. What happens after the conversations are had. Eh, I mean, sure.

Mm-hmm but, um, you know, I’ve made it super intentional as, as a mission of mine that like, you know, if you ain’t going hear me, you go see me in a sense of like, you know, with my show to shift, like I was able to pitch that, have that sold. And then now I employ a full BI staff. It’s amazing. Yeah. And I, I just, at some point you like, you, you know, your messaging, I think a lot of conversations obviously came out at 2020, but there’s always so many times I can put something in with you using 240 characters on a Twitter box.

Right. Like when is that gonna move into action? So that’s just, and I’m also impatient like that. So that’s just always gonna be me. But yeah, I think that’s sort of what it is. And as I’m having these throwing pains and accepting my success, which is earned and not handed to me, um, and accepting that my nose are going to set boundaries for people that look like me in a healthy way, moving forward.

Um, And me showing up as myself and wearing what I wanna wear and talking to, I wanna talk and networking how I wanna network and telling stories, how I wanna do it. It also gives permission to other people to also do that themselves too, and feel free and compelled to do so. Um, I think that that’s sort of what keeps me going and that’s what I always have to come back to.

And remember 

[00:14:31] Elise: mm-hmm and is that take us through, you mentioned the shift is take us through the process of how that came to be 

[00:14:38] Kayla: yeah, I think it came out of impatience, you know? So we talk about like, oh, we’re gonna like diversify and bah bah bah and change how we tell stories. I’m like, this is not moving fast enough.

And then the, this is the runaround for the runaround. Where’s the show. Where’s the content, where’s the hiring what’s happening. And so, um, you know, I had started by just like getting together a deck. I was like, let me just go for it. Put together a. Put together, like mood boards, storytelling, what the segments would look like, what kind of things that would look like.

And so put that forth and, you know, TSN brand partnership teams got it sold. And then yeah, we were able to do season one, which is great. So, um, I think, yeah, it came out of a space of like, I’m tired of waiting. And it is time for a shift and it’s the shift. 

[00:15:23] Elise: So that’s the shift good name. 

[00:15:25] Kayla: So I was super excited to have a space that also like, you know, we talk about sport a lot, but what was amazing was I think I also realize, and I also know because I live it, it’s not just sport, it’s sport and entertainment.

Culture can also exist. And there’s this amazing intersection of, of sport all and culture. And I felt like we weren’t doing the best job. Of giving that love and light. So yeah, no, that’s, that’s sort of like where that came from and I’m so happy about it. What are you 

[00:15:55] Elise: impatient about now? Like you said, that that was born out of like you’re impatience is there, what’s like, what’s kind of really grinding your gears right 

[00:16:03] Kayla: now that wanna see change, like learning the business.

Like on a personal standpoint, like, you know, for me, you know, when you see me, I think people associate like she’s on air television, but you know, the biggest thing for me is being an executive producer of a show, um, and going through the pitching process of a show. Um, but also learning how these industries work and where the money’s actually at.

You know, when people pay dollars for said, show how much actually goes into production, how much actually goes to talent, how much? So learning the ins and out of the game to play within the game in a strategic way that can propel people that look like me forward. That is what I’m impatient about now. Mm.

And it takes having a lot of, of uncomfortable conversations. It takes some heartbreak because you also learn at some points you’ve been probably screwed and or used are taken advantage of. Um, but this is, you know, I always say like, well, what I know now, I never knew. Two five years ago, so I’m in a good place.

And so now when I make decisions, I can do it with some more information. So I think to me, it’s, it’s, it’s migrating who I am as a person is not Kayla, just the reporter or the host, but Kayla, the entrepreneur and the business woman. 

[00:17:16] Elise: No, I love that. And I feel like it’s, I’d imagine like, you know, storyteller, creator, connector, like you have a great team of people around you.

I’m sure you mentioned building out your team, um, with The Shift what’s important to you when you’re, when you’re building out that team and those course, and also not even like maybe your formal team, but the people that are surrounding you. Right? Like what kind? Yeah. What do you look for in them and, and what impact do they.

[00:17:41] Kayla: So also to the thing with like sometimes when you live in like scarcity mentality or, or when you’re like coming from where I came from growing up, asking for help is the hardest thing. The hardest thing, cuz one there’s this fear like someone soon to say, well, you owe me because I helped you. Right. Um, but two, cause you’ve more so become so used to just doing things on your own.

So biggest lesson for me from 20 21 was to ask for help. Um, and so from a personal standpoint, I’ve built out like a little bit of a baby team for my personal life, but also business with KA Graham media, Inc. Um, and what I’ve always looked for first was just being genuine and genuinely wanting to see this whole operation win, because I feel like if that’s at the root and you generally wanna see something win and gain and whatever that may look like. I won’t question your, your, I won’t question your questions, if that makes sense. Or I won’t question your decisions because I know that it’s so based and rooted in wanting to see something succeed.

So that’s first and foremost, second is just authenticity. And I do that with the shift team. I want people that are different. I want people that will get in there and debate and say, no, I don’t really like that idea. And now I don’t really like this, or now I don’t feel safe with this. Right. You know, I think if, if you let people just be who they are and let people be, they become the best creators become its because it’s coming from such a safe space.

So yeah, it’s always my goal and an intention to create a safe space for people. Um, and then third just work. You know, it’s one of those things where like, I, I think I’m done with, you know, promoting this burnout culture cuz it’s silly and it has done me no favors in the grand scheme of mental health. Um, but I think there’s something to working in an efficient way.

Um, you know what I mean? And so that to me, I, I value is when people, can you know, work, but also fight for the life that they live too, because as I’ve noticed and cuz I, sometimes I just would say yes to every little thing and I’d have no time for my son, but most importantly I’d have no time for me. And my stories were failing because I lacked context of life.

And you’re just going, going. 

Yeah. And you need to live your life because how can you be up in a, trying to relate one on one in business conversations or whatever, if you cannot speak to that person mm-hmm . And when I say speak to some, most people don’t wanna be spoken to by numbers. they wanna be spoken to by experience.

They wanna be spoken to by relatability. They wanna be spoken to by, okay. She gets it. She knows

[00:20:12] Elise: mm-hmm mm-hmm 

[00:20:13] Kayla: like, you know, there’s a reason why all these deals are being made on the golf course, cuz the love of the game brings them there. Yeah. And it’s just a more casual way to get it done. Um, so that’s the things I look forward to people that understand that as well.

[00:20:26] Elise: I laughed when you, when you said golf course. Cause I feel like I’m gonna start taking up golf actually. Absolutely. 

[00:20:32] Kayla: Everyone. Everybody should I, I just started picking up last year and I’m I tell you some people I’ve like gone out with I’m like, what are y’all y’all talk about this here and now. 

[00:20:43] Elise: Really? Okay. 

[00:20:45] Kayla: Oh yes girl. It is a secret society out there and they were going on trips and then we have, and this and that, and they’re in clubs and I love it for them. Yeah. But I also wanna be a part of that 

[00:20:57] Elise: too. Yeah, totally. Yeah. I did. I was, I, um, from like kind of a hobby standpoint, but so I didn’t know the, I would imagine conversations happen, but I’m sure you, it sounds like you’ve been in some of those conversations, so yes.

Good to know another great. Tracker in the luggage and hit the golf course. 

[00:21:12] Kayla: Hit the golf courses, hit the golf courses, or, you know, or just find a hobby. I feel like so much can happen. Like, you know, I don’t know if you find a hobby or like, I wanna play soccer this summer and I’m, I’m assuming I might meet or connect with some people.

You don’t do it, obviously. With that strategy of like, where can I get gained? But like, you know, maybe a genuine love for something might lead to collaboration, which I’m so about this year is collaborating with as many people as possible and seeing how much magic we can create together. 

[00:21:40] Elise: Yeah. I love that.

You mentioned burnout a little bit and I, I feel like we’ve all had, you know, probably a bit of a sense of burnout following the last couple years. And I, I know myself, I didn’t realize that it was burnout. So what did burnout look like for you? 

[00:21:57] Kayla: Tears? Uh, no seriously tears. Yeah. Just being so exhausted and I was forgetting a lot.

I was like forgetting, like I would be so packed to the brim of schedule, schedule, schedule, schedule. And I would forget that day, what I had to do in the next five minutes. In the next two months I was forgetting and I wasn’t showing up fully as me and I was angry and I wasn’t delivering the best stuff that I could possibly be doing because I was so either anxiety stricken of what’s coming next but like, um, or saying, you know, I’m tired or being scared of saying I’m tired. And just all of those emotions being wrapped in one, I was like, A pause needs to happen. Mm-hmm as much as I love and I’m addicted to the go, go, go, go, go. My body literally cannot handle that right now. My bandwidth cannot handle that right now.

So, you know, I was very, very big on trying to solve what that looked like and what health looked like from like a work life standpoint. Um, because I just realizing I was missing so much of my child’s milestones too, and I didn’t want to do that. Mm-hmm um, and so it. Coming to ask for help. You know, I have an assistant who schedules and worries about that stuff and does an amazing job.

I have therapist. Amazing. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. And I have a therapist that I dump on every, every week, every two weeks. And, you know, just having those pillars in place that hold myself accountable. And you just realize that you don’t have to live this life, holding your breath the entire way through. Like you can literally like breathe and it’ll be okay.

[00:23:31] Elise: Yeah. And like, how do you enjoy all these like milestone moments that you’re having career? Right? 

[00:23:38] Kayla: That I, there were awards coming my way. There was accolades. There were shadows, there were pieces. There were, and I don’t remember any of them. 

[00:23:46] Elise: Yeah. That’s part. And, and when did you, when did you experience that burnout?

Like what, what year was that for you from? 

[00:23:54] Kayla: It was 2020 because, um, you know, I was already busy and I could sense I was already busy, but you know, obviously there was a lot of conversations about diversity and media and sport and you know, what that looked like. And so you. As, you know, there wasn’t that many people that looked like me in the sports industry.

So who was getting called every single time, who was getting booked for panels every single time. And I’m not complaining because I wanted to be there and I wanted to engage in these conversations cuz it was something so important to me. I just wasn’t mindful of how much I took on. So I took on everything and I just kept going and going.

And then 2020 happened and the show happened and, then it snowballed into following this team along for entire season, while also keeping up the show while also doing another job, like snowball snowball snowballed into 2021. And I was just like, what is happening? I can’t, I can’t grasp anything at this point.

[00:24:45] Elise: Yeah. Yeah. And I’m sure like how old is your 

[00:24:49] Kayla: child? Four. Four. Okay. He’s four. 

[00:24:52] Elise: He’s four. Okay. So that’s all, so he’s like two at that time and that’s oh yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That’s a lot. That’s a lot. Got 

[00:25:00] Kayla: it. Alcohol helps. But you know, In moderation. 

[00:25:04] Elise: So what does, what does the rest of like 20, 22 look like for you into, into 2023?

Cause I guess we’re halfway through, I don’t know how, but halfway through . 

[00:25:16] Kayla: Yeah, no, I, you know, I’m, I’m so proud of like the steps that I think we’ve all taken moving forward. So, you know, last year to me was, you know, finding some ease in my life and that was like, you know what I wanted to be at the top this year for.

Collaboration and creation. Um, you know, now that I’ve been able to steal some joy for myself and like manage things, I’ve also opened up space for me to just have like ideation sessions and to sit on ideas. Yeah. And to pitch ideas and to grow my business that way and to do things that I wanna do. And.

Story tell in different forms and mediums, you know? Yeah. Um, so that’s, what’s coming up next and also so happy to be able to do it with the shift, um, because we’ve actually been in season two. Okay. But I’ve just never officially announced it. I don’t know why, but we will happen of. Official announcement of season two.

Um, and with season two, we’re gonna have some incredible interviews, um, that will be their own specialist. And I’m so, so honored that these players wanna do this, um, and excited to share these conversations that are coming up 

[00:26:21] Elise: well, amazing. I mean, I feel like you said it. In your, you’re kind of like three points there.

It’s like the work that you’ve put in. Like you’re so deserving of this success that you’re having and excited to see that the conversations that you continue to have on and off the court and you know, what comes next for you and, and the content and the collaboration space too. 

[00:26:42] Kayla: Thank you. Yes, she’s wearing different hats now.


[00:26:47] Elise: I love it. Well, thank you so much for being here with us and we’ll, I mean, I’m excited to keep an eye on what you do next, for sure. 

[00:26:55] Kayla: Yeah. You’re a busy lady. I I’m so excited for this next year. Like I, I really back to intuition your official, your, you know, your earlier question, my intuition tells me that this is gonna be a great time for.

Yeah. I love that. Well, you deserve that. I hope that for everyone too. 

[00:27:12] Elise: yes, I know. Right? We all need it. We all need a good, a good year. They’re all. 

[00:27:17] Kayla: Yeah, 

[00:27:18] Elise: it feels, it definitely feels a little better. So we’ll keep on that trajectory, but it was so great to meet. Hopefully we’ll get to meet in person one day.

[00:27:25] Kayla: Yes. We need to like make some time for sure. 

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